🛠️ Old Timers vs CNC: Same Fight, Different Decade
“How many old timers like me hate CNC machines?”
Short answer?
A lot.
And also… not really.
Because once you dig through 800+ comments of pure shop-floor chaos, what you actually get is the same argument machinists have been having for 40+ years — just louder, saltier, and with way more boomers typing in all caps.
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⚙️ The “Button Pusher” Crowd
You knew this was coming.
“Anyone can push a button 😩”
“A monkey could operate them.”
“Takes the skill out of machining.”
“I'd rather be broke in a trailer park than run a CNC every day”
There’s a very specific type of guy in this camp:
Learned on manual
Proud of it (rightfully so)
Thinks CNC = no skill
Has absolutely zero interest in learning CAM
And look — some of the frustration is legit.
There are operators out there loading parts, hitting cycle start, and calling themselves machinists. That pisses off guys who spent decades grinding tools, indicating setups, and actually thinking through parts.
But the problem isn’t CNC.
It’s pretending the guy loading parts = the guy programming, setting up, troubleshooting, and actually making the shit run.
Big difference.
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🧠 The “Realists” (aka the guys still employed)
Then you’ve got the majority — the guys who actually live in reality:
“Different job, different tool.”
“You can’t compete without CNC.”
“If you can’t do both, you’re limiting yourself.”
These are the dudes who:
Started manual
Learned CNC
Still use both
And don’t get emotional about machines
They’re not romanticizing handwheels or jerking off over cycle time.
They just want the part done — fast, right, and profitable.
And they know:
Manual = awesome for one-offs, repair, quick ops
CNC = destroys everything for production, complexity, repeatability
Simple as that.
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💰 The “Money Talks” Crew
This group doesn’t care about feelings at all.
“It’s where the money is.”
“I can do in 10 minutes what takes all day manual.”
“CNC pays the bills.”
No nostalgia. No ego. No debate.
Just:
👉 What makes money wins.
And they’re not wrong.
You can love cranking handles all you want — but shops that ignore CNC don’t stay shops very long.
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🧓 The “I Just Like Cranking Handles” Guys
This might be the most honest group in the whole thread:
“I don’t hate CNC… I just prefer manual.”
“Nothing feels better than making a part by hand.”
“My back hates manual, though.”
No bullshit. No superiority complex.
Just dudes who:
Like the feel
Like the challenge
Like the craft
And honestly… fair.
There is something different about manually making a part from scratch. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
But that doesn’t mean it scales. And it sure as hell doesn’t mean it’s better for every job.
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🤡 The Absolute Chaos Section
Because it’s the MACHINIST group… of course we got:
“You must hate cars too”
“Go retire already”
“Tell me you’re unemployable without telling me”
“CNC is just programming”
“Manual guys are obsolete”
“CNC guys are idiots”
And somehow… politics got dragged in too. Naturally.
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🔥 The Actual Truth (Nobody Wants to Admit)
Here’s what this entire thread really boiled down to:
Manual guys hate fake machinists (button pushers with no fundamentals)
CNC guys hate gatekeeping dinosaurs (who refuse to learn anything new)
Everyone secretly agrees both are needed
Nobody wants to admit it without talking shit first
And the best comment in the whole thread basically summed it up:
“A real machinist can do it all.”
That’s it. That’s the answer.
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🧾 Final Take
CNC didn’t kill machining.
Bad training did.
Cheap shops did.
Calling operators “machinists” did.
Manual didn’t die.
It just stopped being the main character.
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And if you’re still out here in 2026 arguing manual vs CNC like it’s Ford vs Chevy…
You’re missing the point.
👉 The best guys in this trade?
They’ll run a Bridgeport, a 5-axis, a grinder, a lathe, and whatever the hell else you throw at them…
…and they won’t cry about it either.
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Now go hit cycle start… or crank a handle…
Just don’t crash the damn thing.
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